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If only we could aggresively expand that. But the urban to suburban transition occurs relatively quickly in NYC and I think we already have a subway system which can fulfill that service need. Of course NY commuter railroads should be working together to create some through running services where they make sense and increase service frequency in the city and inner suburbs. My point is the scale is totally different with the Paris example. Those would be SNCF regional services performing those duties. In this comparison, New York's commuter railroads NJT, M-N and LIRR serve distances well beyond any distance the RER goes. That is to say further out locales in the outer boroughs are using the subway to reach the central 'city' whereas in Paris that same geographic reaches would be served by the longer distance RER. In New York City the subway serves the role that the RER has in Paris. Much of Paris is laced with Metro lines that have a density and usage similar to subway ridership in Manhattan. Paris is barely bigger than Manhattan in square miles. I will say specific to the RER example while talking about NYC commuter railroads, what's important to remember is its not quite apples to well big apples. Anything would be better than the current service pattern so there's a level of preaching to the choir here. I haven't commented because I feel like anyone reading this thread or others is likely already on the same page with regards to a desire to see the regional rail model implimented for U.S. The New York commuter rail systems combined has 1/5 the ridership of the Paris RER, and that's for a smaller city with a metro that has about the same ridership as the NYC subway. What I'm talking about is bringing New York up to speed with the rest of the world. It's true that there are many things to build. MOM Rail Network - 2 lines, estimated ridership 80,000

West Trenton Line : New York – Newark Penn – Bound Brook – Hopewell – West Trenton, estimated ridership : 6,000 Lehigh Line : Hoboken – Newark Penn – Raritan – Easton – Bethlehem - Allentown, estimated ridership : 15.000 Lackawanna line : Hoboken – Newark Broad – Dover - East Stroudsburg, estimated ridership 6300 Pittsfield line : New York – White Plains – Brewster – Danbury – New Milford – Kent, estimated ridership : 2400 West Shore Line : Hoboken – Teaneck – Tappan – West Haverstraw : Estimated Ridership : 25,000 I-287 Rail / PVL Extension : Suffern - Tarrytown - GCT via Hudson, estimated ridership : 90,000 If they had built the following they would have added a ton of ridership to the network Pre-pandemic the Ridership was just over a million. Expanding the network and utilizing all the terminals instead of dumping it all onto Penn would be a better solution. The LIRR doesn't really gain anything, so it would be hard to get them on board. NJT needs billions in upgrades to allow for through running and i'd argue it would be better to spend that money elsewhere in the state to expand Newark Subway or HBLR or build the Central Jersey Rail network. Obviously new rolling stock would be needed, but Metro North already has dual-mode catenary/third rail rolling stock so it's certainly doable.

#NEWARK TO PENN STATION TRAIN FREE#

It's great by North American standards, but compare it to its compatriot cities in cities like London, Paris or Tokyo, and the ridership numbers are pretty pathetic.Ĭonnecting NJT and the LIRR should be relatively easy and should also free up capacity at Penn Station as trains don't have to turn around as well as in the east river tunnels as NJT trains don't have to run empty to the Sunnyside yards, and remove/mitigate the need for centrally located rail yards that can then be redeveloped. I really like NYC's commuter/regional rail system, it has great bones, but it really should develop more in the direction of an S-Bahn/RER, with through-running, frequent all-day service, and integrated easy to understand fares.

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